• NY & MAGA

    From IB Joe@1:342/200 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Aug 14 10:08:22 2026
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    I am looking forward to being back in the Great State of New York
    tomorrow, where Highly Respected and very popular Nassau County
    Executive, Bruce Blakeman, is running to be the next Governor!

    Bruce is MAGA all the way, and has been with me from the very beginning.
    As Nassau County Executive, he is working tirelessly with the Brave
    Heroes of ICE, Border Patrol, and Law Enforcement to Keep Our Border
    SECURE, Stop Migrant Crime, Safeguard our Community, and Ensure LAW AND
    ORDER. As your next Governor, Bruce will continue to fight hard to Grow
    the Economy, Cut Taxes, and Regulations, Promote MADE IN THE U.S.A.,
    Champion American Energy DOMINANCE, Strengthen our Military/Veterans,
    Advance Election Integrity, and Protect our always under siege Second Amendment!

    Bruce Blakeman is a FANTASTIC guy, will win the big November Election
    and, without hesitation, has my Complete and Total Endorsement for
    Governor of the ONCE GREAT STATE OF NEW YORK. BRUCE WILL MAKE IT GREAT
    AGAIN, AND WILL NEVER LET YOU DOWN! President DONALD J. TRUMP
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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 15 08:33:53 2026
    IB Joe wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-

    Bruce Blakeman is a FANTASTIC guy, will win the big November Election

    But the Voter Fraud Machine is strong in NY.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Aug 15 15:08:02 2026
    On 15 Aug 2026, Ron L. said the following...


    But the Voter Fraud Machine is strong in NY.


    I think the current governor of NY is hated. They may like her in NYC but the rest of NY are done.

    BTW, did you see Trump's speech last night in NY. He stepped off stage to console a grieving mother who lost a son recently from democrat policies.

    Maybe I've misread the room... But I think there will be changed coming.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Aug 16 08:21:54 2026
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I think the current governor of NY is hated. They may like her in NYC
    but the rest of NY are done.

    BTW, did you see Trump's speech last night in NY. He stepped off stage
    to console a grieving mother who lost a son recently from democrat policies.

    Maybe I've misread the room... But I think there will be changed
    coming.

    You didn't misread the room. The Propaganda Ministry purposely doesn't include anything that's negative toward the Left.

    The Left has long ago learned that if they keep quiet about things (ex: a private citizen using a legal gun for self defense) that the general public will think that "it never happens or happens only rarely". As humans we are hardwired for that and have to do some mental work to break that.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Aug 16 12:20:52 2026
    On 16 Aug 2026, Ron L. said the following...


    You didn't misread the room. The Propaganda Ministry purposely doesn't include anything that's negative toward the Left.

    The Left has long ago learned that if they keep quiet about things (ex: a private citizen using a legal gun for self defense) that the general public will think that "it never happens or happens only rarely". As humans we are hardwired for that and have to do some mental work to
    break that.


    I believe that the propaganda machine is working overtime, but I think it's too little too late.

    There are the Kool Aide drinkers who lap this stuff up, but I do think those where were/are center left are starting to see the BS.

    Lets hope there are enough red pills to accommodate the ones needing them.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Sun Aug 16 21:06:00 2026
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    I am looking forward to being back in the Great State of New York tomorrow, where Highly Respected and very popular Nassau County
    Executive, Bruce Blakeman, is running to be the next Governor!

    I love it, and I love Trump's enthusiasm about this. I pray for Bruce Blakeman every day. I need to brush off all doubts, drag people to the polls on Election Day, and expect nothing but success for him and for my state.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Aug 16 21:15:16 2026
    Bruce Blakeman is a FANTASTIC guy, will win the big November Election

    But the Voter Fraud Machine is strong in NY.

    I've heard that NY is "the highest taxed state." I don't know if that's true but if it is then a lot of "George's" revenue is at stake. And he's the king of elections.

    I'm hoping that Elon Musk will help.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Aug 17 07:26:41 2026
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I've heard that NY is "the highest taxed state." I don't know if that's true

    It's a tie between NY and California, I think. Both states are leaking revenue like crazy.

    I'm hoping that Elon Musk will help.

    He probably won't. The best way out is through. Let it all fail and then pick up the pieces.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Aug 18 07:24:42 2026
    On 16 Aug 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    I love it, and I love Trump's enthusiasm about this. I pray for Bruce Blakeman every day. I need to brush off all doubts, drag people to the polls on Election Day, and expect nothing but success for him and for my state.


    Ya, sometimes things just need to play out. trump was from the once great state of NY. Sometimes you need to go through somethings as well. We all needed 4 years of Joe to learn about what the Democrats were about.

    So many wealthy people are leaving NY and going to Florida the Governor is going to cancel property taxes on your Primary/Homesteaded property.

    This means portions of Mar a Lago will not have property taxes. HAHA

    If Florida was a blue state they would have found ways to spend the money, not a red state, Ron found ways to give it back!!!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Tue Aug 18 09:18:10 2026
    So many wealthy people are leaving NY and going to Florida the Governor
    is going to cancel property taxes on your Primary/Homesteaded property.

    I'm excited for you and for the other Floridians. All red states have perks, but this one tops most of them. It will be difficult for Democrats to ever persuade people that "paying property tax is better than not paying property tax."

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Aug 19 13:26:14 2026
    On 18 Aug 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    I'm excited for you and for the other Floridians. All red states have perks, but this one tops most of them. It will be difficult for
    Democrats to ever persuade people that "paying property tax is better
    than not paying property tax."


    Democrats are always looking at ways to spend money or generate tax revenue.

    Take a look at NYC's budget its larger than Florida's budget. NYC is a state whereas NYC is a city and the state is larger than the city.

    I forget exactly how many BILLIONS & BILLIONS Florida gained from NY's issues, but almost right away Ron was looking at ways to return the fortune to the tax payers.

    With the primaries over in Florida, they went the way I hoped they would. BUT I panicked for a 1/2 second thinking about the new Governor... Byron Donals, not because he's not awesome but rather how awesomer Ron DeSantis is/was. He'll be a hard act to follow.

    Here is a prediction... Trump will nominate DeSantis as a supreme court justice before 2028 to keep him out of that election cycle. Him and/or Ted Cruz... either one or both just to make it a clear run for Vance and Rubio ticket.

    BTW, and I didn't know this... Alex Vindman, do you recall him??? He was the guy who was a whistle blower who testified against Trump during an impeachment trial... Russia Russia/Ukraine hoaxes.

    He was a "Normal" democrat and he lost against a DSA candidate.

    I'm not worried because the Senate is chosen by the state and not by the retards on the left.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Wed Aug 19 15:36:00 2026
    Democrats to ever persuade people that "paying property tax is better than not paying property tax."


    Democrats are always looking at ways to spend money or generate tax revenue.

    I'm sure that it's going to irritate the hell out of Democrats who had their eyes on that money.

    Here is a prediction... Trump will nominate DeSantis as a supreme court justice before 2028 to keep him out of that election cycle. Him and/or Ted Cruz... either one or both just to make it a clear run for Vance and Rubio ticket.

    It sounds good. Even if he's not versed in US law, he's alright by me.

    BTW, and I didn't know this... Alex Vindman, do you recall him??? He
    was the guy who was a whistle blower who testified against Trump during
    an impeachment trial... Russia Russia/Ukraine hoaxes.

    He was a "Normal" democrat and he lost against a DSA candidate.

    I remember him. He must have forgot that Democrats don't like veterans, and that he was just a tool. Maybe he gets that now.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Thu Aug 20 06:49:26 2026
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    Democrats are always looking at ways to spend money or generate tax revenue.

    Correction. Democrats are always looking at ways to launder money and TAKE income by taxation.

    It's been well proven after multiple decades that the best way to generate tax revenue is to LOWER taxes and other gov't burdens. Even JFK understood this.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 21 17:05:28 2026

    On 19 Aug 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    I'm sure that it's going to irritate the hell out of Democrats who had their eyes on that money.


    I recall the day he announced it. AND I hope it's not temporary. It wi;ll also make it difficult for other governors... Think about it, they'll have to run a tight ship or return property taxes.

    What a thing to do on the way out the door though.


    It sounds good. Even if he's not versed in US law, he's alright by me.


    Nooooooooooooo, both are lawyers and versed in the law.

    Trump joked about Cruz recently... Trump said he'd get all 100 senators to vote for Cruz. I just think Ron might be a hurtle for Vance and Rubio in 2028.

    Both are constitutionalist, and are great guys. We need more MAGA policies and hence I favor Vance and Rubio for 2028.


    I remember him. He must have forgot that Democrats don't like veterans, and that he was just a tool. Maybe he gets that now.


    Right, and that tool just lost to a commie tool.

    The republican running for senate in Florida will clean that commie's clock.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Fri Aug 21 17:13:34 2026
    On 20 Aug 2026, Ron L. said the following...


    Correction. Democrats are always looking at ways to launder money and TAKE income by taxation.

    It's been well proven after multiple decades that the best way to
    generate tax revenue is to LOWER taxes and other gov't burdens. Even
    JFK understood this.



    There was a time when politicians ran a tight ship, well kinda...

    I recall George W wanted to do something and it would have to increase the deb... it was at ~ 5.??? trillion at he time... now its where its at and no one gives a sh!t.

    we need to pass an amendment to either cap federal taxes or abolish them and go back to tariffs like we had in the old days.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 22 08:24:50 2026
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    There was a time when politicians ran a tight ship, well kinda...

    It's sort of like the Great Train Robbery in the U.K.

    tl;dr: They got away with the gold without any evidence leading to them.

    But they had to launder the gold. They had purchased a gold smelting operation legally and laundered the gold through that.

    What tripped them up was how much their security relaxed over time. It started off as "every 'i' dotted and 't' crossed" and ended up with them just dumping a cardboard box of cash off at the bank and walking away.

    They got too comfortable in their wealth and that raised red flags.

    That's what we are seeing in the politicians: We own the system and won't be held accoutable for anything, so we can do as we please and not have to cover it up.

    I recall George W wanted to do something and it would have to increase
    the deb... it was at ~ 5.??? trillion at he time... now its where its
    at and no one gives a sh!t.

    That's human nature. We evolved to count apples on trees or predators in the grass. When numbers reach a certain point, we lack the ability to really comprehend them.

    That's why people have used other things - "If we represented the debt as 1 dollar bills and stacked them up, the stack would reach past the moon" - to explain large numbers.

    we need to pass an amendment to either cap federal taxes or abolish
    them and go back to tariffs like we had in the old days.

    We need to get spending under control first and that won't happen until all the Leftists and their Deep State operatives are removed.


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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 22 17:15:52 2026
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    When I need some humor, I turn to this echo and leaf through ... as in 'now'...

    I am looking forward to being back in the Great State of New York
    tomorrow, where Highly Respected and very popular Nassau County
    Executive, Bruce Blakeman, is running to be the next Governor!

    Bruce is MAGA all the way, and has been with me from the very beginning.
    As Nassau County Executive, he is working tirelessly with the Brave
    Heroes of ICE, Border Patrol, and Law Enforcement to Keep Our Border SECURE, Stop Migrant Crime, Safeguard our Community, and Ensure LAW AND ORDER. As your next Governor, Bruce will continue to fight hard to Grow
    the Economy, Cut Taxes, and Regulations, Promote MADE IN THE U.S.A., Champion American Energy DOMINANCE, Strengthen our Military/Veterans, Advance Election Integrity, and Protect our always under siege Second Amendment!

    Bruce Blakeman is a FANTASTIC guy, will win the big November Election
    and, without hesitation, has my Complete and Total Endorsement for
    Governor of the ONCE GREAT STATE OF NEW YORK. BRUCE WILL MAKE IT GREAT AGAIN, AND WILL NEVER LET YOU DOWN! President DONALD J. TRUMP

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 22 15:32:32 2026
    I recall the day he announced it. AND I hope it's not temporary. It wi;ll also make it difficult for other governors... Think about it, they'll have to run a tight ship or return property taxes.

    What a thing to do on the way out the door though.

    Beware of Democrats who will come along and say "I'm not going to reinstate the property tax.." (red flag!)

    Trump joked about Cruz recently... Trump said he'd get all 100 senators
    to vote for Cruz. I just think Ron might be a hurtle for Vance and
    Rubio in 2028.

    I like Ted Cruz but I'd rather have Ron for USSC. Ron has an even better conservative reputation than Ted. Ted might rino out on us if given the chance.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sat Aug 22 16:09:00 2026
    On 22 Aug 2026, Ron L. said the following...

    It's sort of like the Great Train Robbery in the U.K.

    tl;dr: They got away with the gold without any evidence leading to them.

    But they had to launder the gold. They had purchased a gold smelting operation legally and laundered the gold through that.

    What tripped them up was how much their security relaxed over time. It started off as "every 'i' dotted and 't' crossed" and ended up with them just dumping a cardboard box of cash off at the bank and walking away.

    They got too comfortable in their wealth and that raised red flags.

    That's what we are seeing in the politicians: We own the system and
    won't be held accoutable for anything, so we can do as we please and not have to cover it up.


    And again, we aren't in that place any more. Midterms are coming and if the Republicans win the Democrats will be crying foul and if the Democrats win the Republicans will be doing the same.

    The only fix is election integrity. Prove you are a citizen, have ID to prove you are who you say you are. And some restrictions on mail in ballots.

    RINO Lisa Murkowski... Independent News went to polling place and asked for Lisa's brother's ballot... without ID and they were going to give it to them... They did the same for one of Lisa's staff.

    The purpose of this was to show how easy it was to cheat if there is no ID requirements.

    Lisa was pissed.

    We have to get rid of these RINOs


    That's human nature. We evolved to count apples on trees or predators
    in the grass. When numbers reach a certain point, we lack the ability
    to really comprehend them.

    That's why people have used other things - "If we represented the debt
    as 1 dollar bills and stacked them up, the stack would reach past the moon" - to explain large numbers.


    Trump is trying to manage the debt by increasing the economy... this might be working. We need a few more years of the MAGA policies though.


    We need to get spending under control first and that won't happen until all the Leftists and their Deep State operatives are removed.


    Trump believes that the budget will balance once the fraud is gone.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ward Dossche on Sat Aug 22 16:19:42 2026
    On 22 Aug 2026, Ward Dossche said the following...


    When I need some humor, I turn to this echo and leaf through ... as in 'now'...



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    ^^^^^^^^^^

    Not as much as we LOL when we see the address like this.

    Do you have a fact or two you can contribute to the conversation??

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Aug 22 16:30:52 2026
    On 22 Aug 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Beware of Democrats who will come along and say "I'm not going to reinstate the property tax.." (red flag!)


    ANY politician... Recall Bush Sr. wasn't going to raise taxes and did...

    2026 politicians don't give a sh!t about budgets... they'll do whatever they want and just print money and go into debt.


    I like Ted Cruz but I'd rather have Ron for USSC. Ron has an even better conservative reputation than Ted. Ted might rino out on us if given the chance.


    Either one good... Trump may have a few openings in they find the Auto-Pen should not have been used to things like USSC appointees.

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  • From Matthew Munson@1:105/420 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 22 21:18:23 2026
    2026 politicians don't give a sh!t about budgets... they'll do whatever they want and just print money and go into debt.

    Either taxes need to be raised or spending needs to be cut.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 22 23:13:04 2026
    Beware of Democrats who will come along and say "I'm not going to reinstate the property tax.." (red flag!)

    ANY politician... Recall Bush Sr. wasn't going to raise taxes and did...

    Him saying "Read my lips" became part of a Megadeth song (Foreclosure of a Dream.)

    2026 politicians don't give a sh!t about budgets... they'll do whatever they want and just print money and go into debt.

    There's only a few politicians who show any sincere concern about anything at all. I love President Trump. He has the attitude like "no matter how bad something is, I'll help you dig your way out of it."

    I like Ted Cruz but I'd rather have Ron for USSC. Ron has an even bet conservative reputation than Ted. Ted might rino out on us if given t chance.

    Either one good... Trump may have a few openings in they find the Auto-Pen should not have been used to things like USSC appointees.

    I like how that sounds. Maybe Ketanji can hit the road!

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to IB Joe on Sun Aug 23 09:31:11 2026
    Do you have a fact or two you can contribute to the conversation??

    Could you define 'fact' ... there doesn't seem to be much available of them here ....

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Aug 23 09:39:50 2026
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    And again, we aren't in that place any more.

    But they don't understand that. Which is kinda nice, but also frustrating.

    I remember when Coleman Young left as Detroit mayor and Kwame Kilpatrick was elected.

    Kwame started doing the exact same things that Coleman did - only he didn't try to cover his tracks. And then he was surprised when he was arrested.

    The only fix is election integrity. Prove you are a citizen, have ID
    to prove you are who you say you are. And some restrictions on mail in ballots.

    In other words, make the SoS follow the laws.

    RINO Lisa Murkowski... Independent News went to polling place and asked for Lisa's brother's ballot... without ID and they were going to give
    it to them... They did the same for one of Lisa's staff.

    I saw that. But it was no surprise to me.

    The purpose of this was to show how easy it was to cheat if there is no
    ID requirements.

    Lisa was pissed.

    Of course she was. Because now she's in a tight place. If she doesn't vote for SAFE, everyone will know that she was never elected. If SAFE gets passed, she'll never be elected again.

    We have to get rid of these RINOs

    We've been saying that for a while now.

    But it won't happen until the voter fraud machines are destroyed.

    Trump is trying to manage the debt by increasing the economy... this
    might be working. We need a few more years of the MAGA policies
    though.

    Right. Dems are all for quick fixes that hurt everyone in the long run. Trump is for long term fixes and help everyone in the long run.

    Trump believes that the budget will balance once the fraud is gone.

    That's what it looks like to me.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Aug 23 09:39:50 2026
    Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-

    Beware of Democrats who will come along and say "I'm not going to reinstate the property tax.." (red flag!)

    Isn't their current play "Campaign like a moderate, rule like a radical" now?


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Aug 23 09:39:50 2026
    IB Joe wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

    On 22 Aug 2026, Ward Dossche said the following...

    Not as much as we LOL when we see the address like this.

    Do you have a fact or two you can contribute to the conversation??

    Probably not. He's been thoroughly vaccinated and boosted against facts.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Aug 23 09:01:20 2026
    Beware of Democrats who will come along and say "I'm not going to reinstate the property tax.." (red flag!)

    Isn't their current play "Campaign like a moderate, rule like a radical" now?

    Sometimes, but obviously there are guys like Mamdani who are openly radical from the start.

    The Florida voters seem smart enough to see through that though.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Matthew Munson on Sun Aug 23 15:56:58 2026
    On 22 Aug 2026, Matthew Munson said the following...


    Either taxes need to be raised or spending needs to be cut.


    Trump's second term he's done both. Trump wants to eliminate income tax for those making under 200K.

    Trump is cutting spending with waste fraud ans abuse. This alone Trump says he can balance the budget, this alone.

    He's getting rid of all the people eating the cats and dogs and is NOT paying any more benefits to illegals.

    The first time in decades the economy is growing father than the debt. SOON the US tax payers money will go to the US citizens and not NGOs and other governments with their hands stuck out looking for help.

    Let him work his magic.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Aug 23 16:10:50 2026
    On 22 Aug 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Him saying "Read my lips" became part of a Megadeth song (Foreclosure of
    a Dream.)


    We went from never wanting to borrow money to saying F**K it, just print it.

    Hopefully we can dig ourselves out and return to policies like we use to have.


    There's only a few politicians who show any sincere concern about
    anything at all. I love President Trump. He has the attitude like "no matter how bad something is, I'll help you dig your way out of it."


    We need to get rid of the RINOs and replace them with true America 1st candidates. Thune has to go!!!

    The deep-state and all the corruption needs to be sorted out. Everything... insider trading and term limits would be nice.


    I like how that sounds. Maybe Ketanji can hit the road!


    We need to take baby steps with her. BUT if they were to legally review her placement and they could show it to be fraudulent then off she goes.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ward Dossche on Sun Aug 23 16:13:10 2026
    On 23 Aug 2026, Ward Dossche said the following...


    Could you define 'fact' ... there doesn't seem to be much available of them here ....


    Ward, show us something you don't agree with. In your rebuttal talk about your ideas and support them and LETS TALK!!!

    Simple AF. debate, this is how that works.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sun Aug 23 16:48:02 2026
    On 23 Aug 2026, Ron L. said the following...


    But they don't understand that. Which is kinda nice, but also frustrating.

    I remember when Coleman Young left as Detroit mayor and Kwame Kilpatrick was elected.

    Kwame started doing the exact same things that Coleman did - only he didn't try to cover his tracks. And then he was surprised when he was arrested.


    Ron, I agree with you. I think the rules should be changed and codified into law.

    Must have proof that you are a citizen to vote.
    Must have ID to vote.
    Must follow tighter rules for mail in ballots.

    Every other week we have politicians stepping down because they got caught screwing the system. We need this full time looking into all politicians.


    In other words, make the SoS follow the laws.


    Or have someone who's not elected for that position. LAWS have to be made and if there is a legitimate questions about the election there is a pathway to satisfying that question.

    Recall Bush/Gore?? by the time that recount was called everyone wanted to move on.


    I saw that. But it was no surprise to me.


    She needs to be voted out of office.


    Lisa was pissed.


    She can be pissed as a private citizen.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Sun Aug 23 20:02:22 2026
    There's only a few politicians who show any sincere concern about anything at all. I love President Trump. He has the attitude like "no matter how bad something is, I'll help you dig your way out of it."


    We need to get rid of the RINOs and replace them with true America 1st candidates. Thune has to go!!!

    He was ok until he became majority leader. The legitimate senators need to get together and discuss taking a vote on a new leader.

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to IB Joe on Mon Aug 24 10:59:00 2026
    Joe,

    Ward, show us something you don't agree with. In your rebuttal talk
    about your ideas and support them and LETS TALK!!!

    Simple AF. debate, this is how that works.

    OK.

    What happened to me, and what I noticed, is that life here became extremely more expensive after 2 events. The first one was the Russian invasion in Ukraine, the second one was that unnecesary war against Iran which, let's be fair, the US is not winning (I'm not talking about losing).

    The monthly provisions for the heating bill paid to the gas company went up from 79 Euro (about US$) a month to 275 Euro (over US$ 300). That's an increase on annual basis of US$2,634 ... that's close to 1/12 of my annual retirement income. Money I had planned to spend for the schooling of my grandchildren.

    At the pump for my car (I drive a diesel) I now pay 2.12 Euro/liter which equals around $2.25 US$. Per gallon I pay US$ 8.19. After Ukraine it went up and eventually went down and settled at like a 40 Eurocent (about US$0.45) surplus, that's about US$ 1.55 up per gallon. After Iran it went up and stabilised at an additional surplus of 0.70 Eurocent per liter (that's like US$.70) for a $US 2.71/gallon where it leveled off.

    Regular gas for a car now costs US$6.95/gallon and premium US$7.84/gallon.

    I stopped driving, it becomes unaffordable and we all get to thank 2 stable geniuses for it and their wild dreams not supported by reality.

    If I had voting power in your elections, my wallet would do the voting.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Aug 24 07:17:46 2026
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Sometimes, but obviously there are guys like Mamdani who are openly radical from the start.

    The Florida voters seem smart enough to see through that though.

    Well, ya. The average IQ of Florida went up while the average IQ of NY and California went way down.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Aug 24 07:17:46 2026
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Every other week we have politicians stepping down because they got
    caught screwing the system. We need this full time looking into all politicians.

    If everything goes the way I would like then I think we will find that many politicians didn't actually get elected.

    Then the "What do we do with those people?" can of worms opens.

    Ex: One of my "senators" certainly looked like he benefited from Biden's "late night vote drop". Let's assume that we prove this and that he wasn't legitimately elected. He's already primaried out, so we can't kick him out of office. Do we demand his last 4 years of pay back? Do we revoke any "retired congress-critter" benefits?

    Or have someone who's not elected for that position. LAWS have to be
    made and if there is a legitimate questions about the election there is
    a pathway to satisfying that question.

    No. Laws have to be enforced equally. Right now we have a two tiered system of justice.

    Recall Bush/Gore?? by the time that recount was called everyone wanted
    to move on.

    The Dems are masters at delay.

    She can be pissed as a private citizen.

    But in her case, she'll be pissed as a POOR private citizen without power. And that galls the Elitists.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Aug 24 07:17:46 2026
    IB Joe wrote to Matthew Munson <=-

    Trump's second term he's done both. Trump wants to eliminate income
    tax for those making under 200K.

    That would be really nice.

    Trump is cutting spending with waste fraud ans abuse. This alone Trump says he can balance the budget, this alone.

    For a long time we had no income tax because properly applied tariffs generated plenty of revenue.

    Then the Elitists wanted more money to play with, so they increased the tariffs and wrecked the economy. Hence the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act.

    Then the Elitists imposed a "temporary" income tax that somehow has lasted generations. Sort of like they almost did with TPS.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Aug 24 07:17:46 2026
    IB Joe wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    We went from never wanting to borrow money to saying F**K it, just
    print it.

    Because people weren't held accountable for their actions.

    Once the deficit is fixed, we should institute a new rule for Congress-critters: They are fined 1% of the Federal Debt every year there is one. And give them a carrot too: If there's a surplus, they get a bonus.

    Hold them accountable and things will correct themselves.

    The deep-state and all the corruption needs to be sorted out.

    That will take a while because it will mean that many gov't agencies will be eliminated and most of the workers removed.

    Everything... insider trading and term limits would be nice.

    Insider trading is hard to prove. They can pass information along to third parties to make money on their behalf.

    Term limits is good, but I also want age limits and total term limits to keep career politicians from existing.

    I like how that sounds. Maybe Ketanji can hit the road!

    We need to take baby steps with her. BUT if they were to legally
    review her placement and they could show it to be fraudulent then off
    she goes.

    Just make the court have to take an IQ test to keep their positions. :)


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Ward Dossche on Mon Aug 24 07:17:46 2026
    Ward Dossche wrote to IB Joe <=-

    What happened to me, and what I noticed, is that life here became extremely more expensive after 2 events. The first one was the Russian invasion in Ukraine,

    That's because the Elitists had been using Ukraine as a money laundering operation. They needed to funnel as much as they could before the "war" ended.
    I term it as a "war" because if Russia wanted to win at any cost, they would have done so by now.

    the second one was that unnecesary war against
    Iran which, let's be fair, the US is not winning (I'm not talking about losing).

    The Iran stuff is not a war. But that's a longer topic.

    The monthly provisions for the heating bill paid to the gas company
    went up from 79 Euro (about US$) a month to 275 Euro (over US$ 300). That's an increase on annual basis of US$2,634 ... that's close to 1/12
    of my annual retirement income. Money I had planned to spend for the schooling of my grandchildren.

    Fuel costs are related to Europe's (especially Germany's) stupid decision to "go green" for energy. But I'm sure not being able to get oil from Iran is not helping things.

    I stopped driving, it becomes unaffordable and we all get to thank 2 stable geniuses for it and their wild dreams not supported by reality.

    No. You get to thank youself for voting for what you got.

    If I had voting power in your elections, my wallet would do the voting.

    Funny. That's how Trump got elected here in the U.S.


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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Ron L. on Mon Aug 24 15:45:29 2026
    That's because the Elitists had been using Ukraine as a money laundering operation. They needed to funnel as much as they could before the "war" ended.

    That's a hoax which cannot be substantiated.

    I term it as a "war" because if Russia wanted to win at any cost, they would have done so by now.

    Hmmmm .... 239,354 confirmed killed. 113,000 killed but not confirmed. 352,000 total killed for not really wanting to win? 10% of deployed North Koreans has been killed, 30% seriously wounded ... not wanting to win?

    Fuel costs are related to Europe's (especially Germany's) stupid decision to
    "go green" for energy. But I'm sure not being able to get oil from Iran
    is not helping things.

    I'll give you credit for highlighting the dubious roles of Green party's, especially in Germany. Odd coincidence, it was when Russia invaded Ukraine that the dependancy on Russian gas and oil became obvious. This was known before, but suddenly it got promoted to critical ... not just newsworthy.

    As a result the Greens were sent packing, but the damage had been done.

    If I had voting power in your elections, my wallet would do the
    voting.

    Funny. That's how Trump got elected here in the U.S.

    I doubt it.

    Even when it's obvious even to Republicans the Trump-administration is corrupt and despiccable, it's not enough for hard-core Republicans to vote for the obvious alternatives ... they'll take the worst Republican over the best Democrat.

    The problem with American politics : there hardly ever is any need for compromise. One side is always more than 50% and winner takes all.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ward Dossche on Mon Aug 24 07:57:50 2026
    Simple AF. debate, this is how that works.

    OK.

    What happened to me, and what I noticed, is that life here became extremely more expensive after 2 events. The first one was the Russian invasion in Ukraine, the second one was that unnecesary war against Iran which, let's be fair, the US is not winning (I'm not talking about losing).

    Step 1: Find out the name of the US president who made the Russian invasion of Ukraine possible by doing nothing about it while Russians deployed.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Mon Aug 24 08:36:50 2026
    Sometimes, but obviously there are guys like Mamdani who are openly radical from the start.

    The Florida voters seem smart enough to see through that though.

    Well, ya. The average IQ of Florida went up while the average IQ of NY and California went way down.

    I wasn't smart enough to move to Florida :(

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Aug 24 16:44:52 2026
    Step 1: Find out the name of the US president who made the Russian
    invasion of Ukraine possible by doing nothing about it while Russians deployed.

    It is not forbidden to use both sides of a brain, usually there are two, left and right.

    To answer step-1, there never was such a request, US intelligence was convinced an invasion would not occur.

    Plus any American President, thatone and the current one, would need the "Go" from Congress ...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Aug 24 14:05:46 2026
    On 23 Aug 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    He was ok until he became majority leader. The legitimate senators need
    to get together and discuss taking a vote on a new leader.



    We need to get rid of all the RINOs.

    Thune was always bad it just took this event to show his real colors.

    I'm not sure we have the time or even want to fight before the midterms.

    We need to clean it all out, I hope that Thune doesn't screw everything up.

    This coming January is when we oust him out of his position and we can primary him in 2028.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ward Dossche on Mon Aug 24 15:45:08 2026
    On 24 Aug 2026, Ward Dossche said the following...


    OK.

    What happened to me, and what I noticed, is that life here became extremely more expensive after 2 events. The first one was the Russian invasion in Ukraine, the second one was that unnecesary war against Iran which, let's be fair, the US is not winning (I'm not talking about losing).


    Welp, on the Ukraine front I think you have a point. Joe and Kamala started that one. I've come to the understanding that the Elites of the world make money off wars so Russia/Ukraine is no surprise to me. If @RonL chimes in he'll say that the elites have been doing this since the beginning of time... he'll add that we are all just bots... and a few other things.

    I blame the whole Russia thing on Europe, other the EU, whatever. When Russia fell they asked to belong to the NATO and they voted against them joining.

    Think about it... Y'all could have said YES and and then said... if you join NATO this is our expectations...

    You have to play nice and not attack other countries and whatnot.

    BUT they didn't and now we have the 2026 version of Putin... The Elites wanted and needed a villain to have these endless wars and we have Putin for the next few years anyway.

    As it goes for IRAN... I think it was due, for almost 50 years every President, and those who ran for president, like Kamala, all said IRAN has to go.

    They killed 30 to 40K people in January, there may be more since... They talk about it now as being over 50K. There was a young woman Trump saved... she was going to execute her because she spoke against the regime... They were going to rape her repeatedly, because she was a virgin, and they don't want her to go to heaven. Apparently, non-virgins go to hell, if they didn't loose their virginity to her husband that is.

    Maybe Iran didn't rape of kill enough people for you. Trump said they were days or a few weeks out form completing a bomb. Iran even said they have weapon grade material.

    The war, if it did anything, it showed that they could strike anywhere in the EU that it wanted to. Add that to nuclear capable you should be thanking Trump.

    https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUUR0000SA0L1E?output_view=pct_12mths

    This is a graph showing the US inflation rate, they say it reached more than 9%, now its just a little more than 2%.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/2516/wti-crude-oil-prices-10-year-daily-chart#googl e_vignette

    Price of oil was ~$120 a barrel during Biden, its currently at ~$85.

    I'm a Right-Wing Libertarian. I like small government and I think they should STFU and just manage things. I was excited that Trump got rid of ~ 1/3 of the government work force. I think the US should get out of NATO and let Europe figure things out.

    You guys need to figure your own things out and we can stop dfunding all this madness, the US funds more than all the NATO members combined several times over.


    The monthly provisions for the heating bill paid to the gas company went up from 79 Euro (about US$) a month to 275 Euro (over US$ 300). That's
    an increase on annual basis of US$2,634 ... that's close to 1/12 of my annual retirement income. Money I had planned to spend for the schooling of my grandchildren.
    At the pump for my car (I drive a diesel) I now pay 2.12 Euro/liter which equals around $2.25 US$. Per gallon I pay US$ 8.19. After Ukraine it
    went up and eventually went down and settled at like a 40 Eurocent
    (about US$0.45) surplus, that's about US$ 1.55 up per gallon. After Iran it went up and stabilised at an additional surplus of 0.70 Eurocent per liter (that's like US$.70) for a $US 2.71/gallon where it leveled off.


    I think your problem is not Trump and these 2 incidences you talk about... I think it's Europe and their immigration and economic policies.

    Wide open borders allowing millions to enter the place unchecked and you're more focused on the Green New Deal, wind and solar, and not fossil fuels.

    I saw someone on Social Media blaming Trump for his inability to get an erection... I don't know but it might have something to do with his over weight wife and her blue hair.

    Just saying...

    But you did leave out a bunch of things your government might be doing to cause your prices to increase.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Ward Dossche on Tue Aug 25 06:57:45 2026
    Ward Dossche wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That's because the Elitists had been using Ukraine as a money laundering operation. They needed to funnel as much as they could before the "war" ended.

    That's a hoax which cannot be substantiated.

    Biden admitted it. Strike 1.

    Hmmmm .... 239,354 confirmed killed. 113,000 killed but not confirmed. 352,000 total killed for not really wanting to win? 10% of deployed
    North Koreans has been killed, 30% seriously wounded ... not wanting to win?

    You are still presuming that Iran is a war. I would suggest trying to look at through a different lens.

    obvious. This was known before, but suddenly it got promoted to
    critical ... not just newsworthy.

    And you didn't think that wasn't strange?

    As a result the Greens were sent packing, but the damage had been done.

    And the current ruling party really isn't doing much to fix it, it seems.

    Even when it's obvious even to Republicans the Trump-administration is corrupt and despiccable,

    And we have evidence of Leftoid-ism.

    *PLONK*


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Aug 25 06:57:45 2026
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Well, ya. The average IQ of Florida went up while the average IQ of NY and California went way down.

    I wasn't smart enough to move to Florida :(

    Well, I have a soft place in my heart for Michigan, so I'm not moving right now.

    That's why I don't want the communists to get into power again.

    But if things get worse, I will certainly consider a move. But it's hard to leave the area that you spent most of you life in.

    The Elitists bank on that.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ward Dossche on Tue Aug 25 13:28:02 2026
    Step 1: Find out the name of the US president who made the Russian invasion of Ukraine possible by doing nothing about it while Russians deployed.

    It is not forbidden to use both sides of a brain, usually there are two, left and right.

    Good point. Biden should have used both sides.

    To answer step-1, there never was such a request, US intelligence was convinced an invasion would not occur.

    This depends on who you mean by "US intelligence." When a feeble leader, with strings fully visible, becomes president of the USA, it opens a window of opportunity. Add that to Russian troops aggressively deploying along the border with Ukraine, which is not a common occurrence, and what's the sum?

    Plus any American President, thatone and the current one, would need the "Go" from Congress ...

    In the USA, the president has the power to deploy troops for up to ~90 days. Aside from that, the president of the USA has lots of diplomatic power.

    I get it that you don't like Trump, but I watched Biden let the Ukraine invasion happen. Literally let it happen.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Tue Aug 25 13:30:46 2026
    Thune was always bad it just took this event to show his real colors.

    Right. He wasn't always openly-rino, but when duty calls, they pledge allegiance to the left.

    This coming January is when we oust him out of his position and we can primary him in 2028.

    That seems possible in a state like North Dakota. They are really, really Republican there. I don't think they're going to put up with this any longer than they need to.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tue Aug 25 13:34:42 2026
    Well, I have a soft place in my heart for Michigan, so I'm not moving right now.

    That's why I don't want the communists to get into power again.

    But if things get worse, I will certainly consider a move. But it's
    hard to leave the area that you spent most of you life in.

    The Elitists bank on that.

    I know the feeling. To some extent they know who they're messing with; 1/2 the state (or more) is conservative, so if they want to do terrible things, they should do it a little at a time in places like NY & MI. But they don't test the water, they jump right in and wreck things really badly as quickly as they can.

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